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		<title>Comment on From non-jobs to non-businesses by John D</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rick: you say &quot;I would be fascinated to see what proportion of self-employed people are receiving in-work benefits.&quot; Could you not ask your MP to ask this question in the House and then pass on the information to us?
Taking buildingstoat&#039;s excellent response above, there may also be another trend at play.  It may be the case that some people are deliberately trying to exist within a non-money, non-banking economy, based on barter and time-exchange/banking. It is one way to ensure that their money is not used to prop up or support in any other way the banking sector, widely seen as THE problem for most ordinary people. Ultimately, this represents a withdrawal from a finance capitalism system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick: you say &#8220;I would be fascinated to see what proportion of self-employed people are receiving in-work benefits.&#8221; Could you not ask your MP to ask this question in the House and then pass on the information to us?<br />
Taking buildingstoat&#8217;s excellent response above, there may also be another trend at play.  It may be the case that some people are deliberately trying to exist within a non-money, non-banking economy, based on barter and time-exchange/banking. It is one way to ensure that their money is not used to prop up or support in any other way the banking sector, widely seen as THE problem for most ordinary people. Ultimately, this represents a withdrawal from a finance capitalism system.</p>
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		<title>Comment on From non-jobs to non-businesses by buildingstoat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think your view about low self-employed incomes is broadly right, however, there are many other aspects of being self-employed that could be taken into account in making sense of this.

Self-employment is a much older way of working than modern corporate &#039;employment&#039;- people have been doing it since the year dot and many of its characteristics seem old fashioned too.

Firstly, money is not the only payment, barter can work very well too, not just because of the possibility of paying less tax but also because the parties may not have the money at hand to buy the product/services. It can also help to increase co-operation, an other important difference. 

Working as a &#039;sole trader&#039; means some jobs are just too big to be do-able. A tree surgeon for instance will probably manage most jobs with just one labourer but if a big or technically very difficult job comes up he&#039;ll call in friends, even competitors to lend a hand and make it possible. This is often not payed for but done on the expectation of similar favours repaid in the future. To a limited extent the same may be done with plant or equipment.

Flexibility is another aspect. I mentioned a labourer but he is probably not employed by the main man. Money may be shared by &#039;you take the money from job B and I&#039;ll take it from A and C. 

For most self-employed people is is vital to keep earnings below the VAT registration threshold. VAT, like PAYE  is a major administrative burden for tiny businesses and it effectively puts up your prices by 20%, making it very difficult to compete. Staying below this level is easy for some, like say acupuncturists who have very few expenses but hard for say plumbers who have to supply a lot of expensive equipment that soon bumps up the turnover. As you&#039;d imagine there are work-arounds here too.

Finally, there is the flexibility that is forced on the self-employed by irregular demands of jobs. No work for a couple of days? Time to service the van, fix the lawnmower, do some promotion. Self employment is a very different country where things are often not what they seem from the &#039;top&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your view about low self-employed incomes is broadly right, however, there are many other aspects of being self-employed that could be taken into account in making sense of this.</p>
<p>Self-employment is a much older way of working than modern corporate &#8216;employment&#8217;- people have been doing it since the year dot and many of its characteristics seem old fashioned too.</p>
<p>Firstly, money is not the only payment, barter can work very well too, not just because of the possibility of paying less tax but also because the parties may not have the money at hand to buy the product/services. It can also help to increase co-operation, an other important difference. </p>
<p>Working as a &#8216;sole trader&#8217; means some jobs are just too big to be do-able. A tree surgeon for instance will probably manage most jobs with just one labourer but if a big or technically very difficult job comes up he&#8217;ll call in friends, even competitors to lend a hand and make it possible. This is often not payed for but done on the expectation of similar favours repaid in the future. To a limited extent the same may be done with plant or equipment.</p>
<p>Flexibility is another aspect. I mentioned a labourer but he is probably not employed by the main man. Money may be shared by &#8216;you take the money from job B and I&#8217;ll take it from A and C. </p>
<p>For most self-employed people is is vital to keep earnings below the VAT registration threshold. VAT, like PAYE  is a major administrative burden for tiny businesses and it effectively puts up your prices by 20%, making it very difficult to compete. Staying below this level is easy for some, like say acupuncturists who have very few expenses but hard for say plumbers who have to supply a lot of expensive equipment that soon bumps up the turnover. As you&#8217;d imagine there are work-arounds here too.</p>
<p>Finally, there is the flexibility that is forced on the self-employed by irregular demands of jobs. No work for a couple of days? Time to service the van, fix the lawnmower, do some promotion. Self employment is a very different country where things are often not what they seem from the &#8216;top&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the roses bloom again by theuxbridgegraduatethe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theuxbridgegraduatethe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 09:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rick 
Please note I have made improvements to the second graph which you are very welcome to use.]]></description>
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Please note I have made improvements to the second graph which you are very welcome to use.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the roses bloom again by Caradog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caradog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you may have slightly pre-empted my response below, but I won&#039;t let that stop me.

&quot;I just wonder what their thinking is on this.&quot;

In my experience there are three kinds of forecasts. The first kind just project current trends out into the future and usually end with &quot;... and a catastrophe ensues&quot;, eg extinction from below replacement rate fertility or whatever. No one really believes these forecasts but they can serve a useful purpose as a wake up call.
The second kind is typified by the Met Office. They have very sophisticated mathematical models and a ruthless commitment to comparing last week&#039;s forecast to this week&#039;s outcome so as to further improve their models.
The third kind involves making some assumptions about what might happen (so they aren&#039;t in the first category) and then projecting the future again. This can look a bit like the Met Office, except that the assumptions are usually chosen to get whatever result the authors want and there is never any review of previous forecast attempts to improve the process.

The third case fits somewhat with your observation below about the OECD &quot;just being PC&quot;. If they have taken care to choose assumptions that give the result they want, then that could explain your difficulty following their thinking - you don&#039;t share their self-serving choice of assumptions.

This is why I brought up the issue of how the forecasts they made in the past compared with subsequent actual events. If they had a history of being right much of the time then they are worth listening to - even when their predictions seem strange. If not, then what does it matter what they say?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may have slightly pre-empted my response below, but I won&#8217;t let that stop me.</p>
<p>&#8220;I just wonder what their thinking is on this.&#8221;</p>
<p>In my experience there are three kinds of forecasts. The first kind just project current trends out into the future and usually end with &#8220;&#8230; and a catastrophe ensues&#8221;, eg extinction from below replacement rate fertility or whatever. No one really believes these forecasts but they can serve a useful purpose as a wake up call.<br />
The second kind is typified by the Met Office. They have very sophisticated mathematical models and a ruthless commitment to comparing last week&#8217;s forecast to this week&#8217;s outcome so as to further improve their models.<br />
The third kind involves making some assumptions about what might happen (so they aren&#8217;t in the first category) and then projecting the future again. This can look a bit like the Met Office, except that the assumptions are usually chosen to get whatever result the authors want and there is never any review of previous forecast attempts to improve the process.</p>
<p>The third case fits somewhat with your observation below about the OECD &#8220;just being PC&#8221;. If they have taken care to choose assumptions that give the result they want, then that could explain your difficulty following their thinking &#8211; you don&#8217;t share their self-serving choice of assumptions.</p>
<p>This is why I brought up the issue of how the forecasts they made in the past compared with subsequent actual events. If they had a history of being right much of the time then they are worth listening to &#8211; even when their predictions seem strange. If not, then what does it matter what they say?</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the roses bloom again by theuxbridgegraduate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theuxbridgegraduate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are very welcome to. And thanks to you too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are very welcome to. And thanks to you too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the roses bloom again by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this Dave. You&#039;ve helped me clarify what was bugging me about all this.

I get the point about primary balances and that Italy had already reduced its deficit. What I find harder to accept is that countries with similar (or worse) demographic problems to the UK but lower growth, higher historic debt and endemic tax evasion can maintain such low deficits relative to the UK. 

I wonder if the OECD is just being PC in saying that all Eurozone countries will achieve the Fiscal Compact targets by 2030. The Eurozone lines on the graph do merge at a convenient point in 2030. I&#039;m not convinced that they will all be able to do this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Dave. You&#8217;ve helped me clarify what was bugging me about all this.</p>
<p>I get the point about primary balances and that Italy had already reduced its deficit. What I find harder to accept is that countries with similar (or worse) demographic problems to the UK but lower growth, higher historic debt and endemic tax evasion can maintain such low deficits relative to the UK. </p>
<p>I wonder if the OECD is just being PC in saying that all Eurozone countries will achieve the Fiscal Compact targets by 2030. The Eurozone lines on the graph do merge at a convenient point in 2030. I&#8217;m not convinced that they will all be able to do this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the roses bloom again by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 08:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caradog, I take your point about previous OECD forecasts but even if this is half-right, it still looks really odd. I just wonder what their thinking is on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caradog, I take your point about previous OECD forecasts but even if this is half-right, it still looks really odd. I just wonder what their thinking is on this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the roses bloom again by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 08:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this. I&#039;m planning to post on this again so I may well nick some bits of your post, with link and credits, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. I&#8217;m planning to post on this again so I may well nick some bits of your post, with link and credits, of course.</p>
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		<title>Comment on From non-jobs to non-businesses by Decoupling productivity and employment &#8211; it&#8217;s hard work, Jim. &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Decoupling productivity and employment &#8211; it&#8217;s hard work, Jim. &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 05:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] asks an important question, are we simply going from non-jobs to non-businesses? And it suggests there&#8217;s a &#8216;wage rage&#8217; growing as a result of the frustrations of [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] asks an important question, are we simply going from non-jobs to non-businesses? And it suggests there&#8217;s a &#8216;wage rage&#8217; growing as a result of the frustrations of [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sleepwalking into tomorrow&#8217;s state by Adam Corlett: Death and pensions &#8211; why the rich get more from pensioner welfare &#124; CentreForum Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Corlett: Death and pensions &#8211; why the rich get more from pensioner welfare &#124; CentreForum Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] was present even before the financial crisis. It’s now even more essential to consider how public spending can be made to add up, and whether we’ve got it right on pensioner welfare spending, pension tax incentives and the [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] was present even before the financial crisis. It’s now even more essential to consider how public spending can be made to add up, and whether we’ve got it right on pensioner welfare spending, pension tax incentives and the [&#8230;]</p>
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